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 # interface
 
+[mediamateriality](mediamateriality.md)
 
 ## incubation
 [making computers better - how we interact with our tools](https://adamwiggins.com/making-computers-better/interact)
 
+[Are We Human? Interview with Mark Wigley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43lDV6_jJd8)
+
 UI UX...........................
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